Status #15657

Oh my God - I been looking into flat earth [...]

Aberdeen, Aberdeen City
via Ubuntu - United Kingdom
Oh my God - I been looking into flat earth 'nonsense' and it is actually quite feasable! maybe this is the biggest truth ( and also the biggest lie we ve been 'educated' into unquestionally accepting spinning globe earth model)
Check it out!:……
Tuesday 16 August 2016, 10:47:07
I don't see how it could be possible. I saw it from orbit and it was not flat LOL. Even the galaxy is not as flat as it appears from a far. Seen that as IDK what is this theory based on...Pirates of the Caribbean?
Tuesday 16 August 2016, 16:56:25
I'm just not convinced, i think it's a diversion from what we really need to be focusing on at the moment and that creating local communities !!!
Tuesday 16 August 2016, 19:34:39
Allison D - UBUNTU USA Education Ambassador
I totally agree with you Equality333!
Tuesday 16 August 2016, 22:10:18
Daniel From UK
Skala how did you see it from orbit?
I just watched the video and it lead me to this video ...
after which am actually considering that the earth could be flat....and if thats true then the lies are bigger than we ever thought....
Wednesday 17 August 2016, 02:06:22
Wednesday 17 August 2016, 02:06:33
I had an experience about 14 years ago where some "people" showed up in a bar I was working in but at the time we were CLOSED. I've let them inside for the sake of company because I was bored and had nothing to do but wonder. It was Sunday. They asked a few questions and then I felt my awareness slowly shift. It was a first time for me in my memorable life. After a few minutes it became obvious that they are not who they appear to be. One of them started to shift the appearance of his lower part of the face around his mouth and jaw. I got scared for a moment but my curiosity was to great to just go away, hehe. The only question I had was "Are you from up there?" The nod was all it took for me to let go of "reality" and my life perceptions and beliefs. At that moment I got sucked out of my body and into the orbit of our home planet. I stayed in AWE for about 10 seconds. A truly remarkable sight. At that time some force pushed me far away from our solar system so fast that I found my self looking down on our galaxy. It was amazing, full of stars and the galaxy was spinning slowly from my point of perception. It was very volumetric. After about another 10 seconds I was catapulted to the other side of the core, just opposite to the location of our solar system. I was shown a planet. A larger green planet on which life is abundant. Only one species was presented as sentient and they were a lot taller than we are, approximately ten times larger if not even bigger. They were humanoids with bluish skin. Giant in stature.
The same way I got there, I was then returned to my body starting in the orbit of that green planet on the other side of the galaxy, back to the orbit of the MilkyWay and into my body from our planets orbit.
So yes, for a brief time my awareness was adrift in space guided to see and experience what I had for the sake of truth. I always wondered about our past and our origins. This projection of consciousness I experienced gave me the fuel I needed to hold on in this monetary monstrum of "our" society.

Truth and Light my friends
Wednesday 17 August 2016, 07:48:33
It's very convincing but as he says himself for evidence you need "Stuff you can put your hands on, physical evidence" where is that. In effect hes doing exactly what he say the Freemasons are doing. Hi argument is sound but in reality until a person actually can see the physical earth then we will never know. We are been fed bull from all directions. The only way to over come it is to come together build sustainable communities and discover the truth for ourselves! It may take centuries but life has these patterns and repeats itself, until we brake the mold it will continue to do so. I believe we had discovered the truth many times before but it conveniently get lost or wiped out but the elite. The focus must be on wake people up FIRST!
Wednesday 17 August 2016, 13:12:18
I agree with you completely. The evidence I was presented was personal. It was needed for me to continue. I get visions and revelations when certain conditions are met. The evidence is strictly personal. To extract it into a more substantial state I would agree to undergo a process of hypnosis but it's more effective to guide others to experience their awakening. I believe that what we perceive with our other energetic bodies is exactly the same as with our physical one. I have been extensively researching the matter and I am convinced that the Earth is as it appears to be. Furthermore I recognize the present influence of alien beings which are influenced by other energy streams or "light" if you will. The light comes from the core of our galaxy as it does in the neighboring Andromeda. They are linked and the exchange of evolutionary information between them is active. It goes the same for other galaxies in this quadrant. I'm saying that our planet is a resonant field of energy that is in tune with our Sun that is in tune with the galactic core. Evolution cannot be stopped in any way. The system we are a part of is being tested as the frequency of the galaxy is rising. The aliens responsible for the monetary system are aware of it. They are not "hostile" per say. They play a role that will ensure that this pattern (monetary system) has no way of manifestation again. They will play out this role perfectly and when we break the pattern at last they will move on to another system that needs reinforcement of equality. There are no good or bad guys just players, expressions of All That Is. We're all a part of it...we're here to make sure we live through it. Ubuntu is by far the most interesting expression of All That Is. It is the ultimate nail that will pop the monetary balloon and end tyranny. It the embrace of creation there is no place for destruction. Ubuntu is that embrace, the way toward life instead of meaningless death.
So yes. Wake up and plant the seeds for others to gain from them. We must is the way of creation. We will not destroy. Destruction will happen on its own because of the pressures to the current system that has no possibility of resistance.

Akashic records show that Ubuntu is the most probable reality for our future. It is infused with Earths energy. It represents harmony and purification. It is the way my friends.
Wednesday 17 August 2016, 17:49:34
If Ubuntu if the future i don't care if the earth is flat or round
Wednesday 17 August 2016, 22:55:26
It could be the size of Jupiter, then both would be true. If Ubuntu is the future, then we have other planets and civilizations to think about, not just our own. You would think we would have this all worked out by now, but we don't.
Thursday 18 August 2016, 03:22:42
Exactly. We have a concept that has already seen the light. Ubuntu settlements and communities have a future as long as there are people that see the truth about the human effort.
Thursday 18 August 2016, 09:11:12
Neil Warren
Either Flat Earth is the most important Truth, or Child Abuse, or Chemtrails, or who issues our "money" (and why). They can't all be MOST important. I've decided which one I think is, see comments to Patrick McCann on here:…
Thursday 18 August 2016, 16:27:54
Neil Warren
And until I know that someone called "Sera Y" has also stopped using and supporting fraud-money and banking, I won't be paying much attention to anything such a profile (and all similar ones) says, thinks, posts, links to, etc.. With "apologies" if that does offend any genuine but nervous types.
Thursday 18 August 2016, 16:32:48
I also have been researching the flat earth since February this year and have official converted. I have done extensive research and have come to the donclusion that the earth is I fact flat. So nice to hear others flirt with the idea. It is the biggest deception yet!
Friday 19 August 2016, 12:12:48
he he, that's funny. But to be honest I took some images of lakes and oceans (Superior, and Erie) looking east/west or north/south. North/south, flat, no curve. Looking east over the Atlantic, slight curve. That's confusing!
Friday 19 August 2016, 17:30:14
Ask a pilot or a skydiver
Monday 22 August 2016, 18:44:22
Than you, Skala, for that detailed account. To deride the system that brought us here (the monetary system) is kicking out the scaffolding out from underneath our feet. It it were not for that, as we have it today, we may have not have had this platform to communicate on.
Monday 22 August 2016, 21:54:51
Than you, Skala, for that detailed account. To deride the system that brought us here (the monetary system) is kicking out the scaffolding out from underneath our feet. It it were not for that, as we have it today, we may have not have had this platform to communicate on.
Monday 22 August 2016, 21:55:40
Yes cbos, I agree. Necessity is the mother of all inventions and what is evident here is that we are all called to extend our awareness to a more unified cooperative effort to sustain life on our planet. We were called here to make a stand against tyranny and manipulation and to establish a quantum anchor point for free will. In other words we bring truth. And we all know the saying: "Three things cannot stay hidden for long; the Sun, the Moon and the Truth." So no matter what the planet looks like from this perspective, I'm sure that we are here to bust this system of slavery and free our conscious source from illusions. Oh, I asked my father about the curve. He explained that the best way to see the curve is to go as high as possible and look at the horizon of an open see. If mountains and other relief structures are present, we have difficulty of the curve perception. Btw, there's a clip of that guy who jumped from a redbull balloon high up in the stratosphere. Check it out the curve is visible. Peace love and truth.
Tuesday 23 August 2016, 20:27:48
Tuesday 23 August 2016, 20:29:27
can you say "fish eye lense" anyone? sigh, yes I saw that one. But also note his hand signal just as he jumps.... has some current images from over chile from high level balloons checking radiation levels. But what of the shadow of the earth on the moon? I also have used the Haversine formula with Google Maps API with success, using a radius of 6,371 km with no complaints to date. It is important at greater distances on our planet and also if we want to travel off it as a matter of course. Thanks for the reply. Time to move on... : )
Wednesday 24 August 2016, 00:31:24
Right time to move on! Syria is invaded but Turkey with US help this is more important right now
Wednesday 24 August 2016, 19:10:50
he he he. yes, of course...
Wednesday 24 August 2016, 20:06:29
Neil Warren
Communication groups and styles vary, of course, but where I come from, cbos / All, "he he he" is not "hear hear" as in well said / listen to that person, but more Beavis and Butthead and "he he, he said Uranus".

And I did support the scaffold of the money system for the best part of 40 years, as it happens, publishing for the UK-based accountancy and then mostly sales profession (definitions and practices of selling vary somewhat too).

In terms of where "getting us here" might be, and if cbos talking with Equality333, Skala, Love528, Sera Y and others, feels a bit flaky in terms of scaffolding to build our unifying NO-money-hierarchy communities, perhaps we could take a minute to take a look at how others are assessing this. This from a Truth Journal group in facebook, which does have my experiences and thus replies under it:…

Tim Iacono - Yesterday at 4:20am · Cardiff


Normally I announce something to members along the lines of: The group is running well and I'm delighted with our progress or Truth Journal is getting hassled by trolls or I might report to you all when we reach specific milestones such as when our membership passed 2000.

However, this message is unusual. Over the last few months we have enjoyed a steady growth in numbers. In fact, I'd confidently say that we are building faster than ever before with new people applying just about every day. While I am happy with this, my suspicious mind cannot help feeling that a small number of our new faces might not be who or what they say they are. Let me explain:

A typical new member often has a number of friends who are already Truth Journal members. They will also have been facebook members for some time, certainly more than a few months. Another common trait among new applicants is that they will also be a member of numerous other facebook groups especially TRUTHER types. Finally, if I check the personal page of an applicant I almost always find many posts that are of a similar type you find in TJ, namely TRUTHER stuff.

Therefore folks you can probably understand why I felt suspicious recently when an applicant applied to join us here THE VERY SAME DAY HE JOINED FACEBOOK. Others have applied LESS THAN A WEEK AFTER JOINING FB. I also found a little out of the ordinary some other applicants who did not have a single friend who was a member here and similarly applicants who were NOT A MEMBER OF ANY OTHER FACEBOOK GROUPS. One more type of new entrant that has made me wonder about their reason for wishing to join our group are the individuals who want to join a TRUTHER group as we are despite the fact THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY TRUTHER TYPE POSTS ON THEIR OWN PAGE.

The reason I'm letting you all know about this stuff is merely because IT'S YOUR GROUP and if I consider something relevant to what we do here I'LL ALWAYS LET YOU KNOW.

The fact we are receiving applications that do not match the 'normal' profile of most of our existing members does not worry me in the slightest and neither do I think it should concern you. There might be a perfectly plausible reason behind every single one. If though there ever comes the time when A DECISION IS MADE TO REMOVE AN UNUSUALLY LARGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS AT THE SAME TIME, or perhaps IF TRUTH JOURNAL IS EVER SUBJECTED TO A SUSTAINED 'TROLL ATTACK', until such time that we are able to identify and remove the persons responsible....


As ever, I thank you all for the continued efforts you make to maintain the quality of Truth Journal, PLUS a very special THANKS to our loyal ADMIN TEAM.
Thursday 25 August 2016, 10:38:59
Neil Warren
Just picture yourselves trailing round South Africa, in masks and with name badges saying whatever, and giving all these people a hug, saying "by the way the Earth is flat you know", and then HOW are you suggesting you want to communicate with how many of them, and WHEN?...

Michael Tellinger
8:48 PM (14 hours ago)

to me
A New Wave of UBUNTU Community Projects Planned For 2016 & 2017

Hello Neil
One of the most striking outcomes of the 2016 South African election is the huge ground support that was created amongst the people around South Africa. This support is many times stronger and larger than the results at the poles. All of the team leaders and candidates in these areas are now ready to initiate a string of community projects that are suitable for each area. I have already identified a few key people that will take on coordination positions to help me manage these activities - but more need to be identified and appointed.

We have initiated a search for people with special skills in 12 municipalities and over 50 towns to identify the initial projects for those areas. The excitement is indescribable amongst the people and they all look to us with hope and anticipation to continue helping their communities. Providing water will be one of the first in several villages. Some of these will be in tribal lands where the tribal Chiefs have been completely abused and marginalised by the government and some have been conned into giving or trading their tribal land to the government for houses and fancy cars. In some cases the land was simply stolen by some government departments and used for various activities.

We will be launching each project as a separate funding channel which will allow people to fund every individual project that resonates with their spirit. BUT we will also require ongoing funding for the UBUNTU office to continue operating and managing these activities. Now that the elections are over, we need to continue with our real work - helping and uplifting communities. So please support us at the central office level and take out a monthly subscription donation HERE: or go to the DONATE page…. Below is a list of projects that have been identified and discussed with the team leaders and some Tribal Chiefs around South Africa to date.

A list of our planned UBUNTU Community Development projects for 2016 & 2017
Recycling; bakery; seedlings; fisheries; providing water to dry villages; electricity; shoe making; African fashion designs; furniture design; wood saw mill; soup kitchens; orphan care; elderly and special needs care; animal rescue & rehabilitation; food growing; growing endangered medicinal herbs and healing plants; basket weaving and other arts and crafts - also training in these skills; Khoisan art classes; tourism; indigenous village living experience - Khoisan and other SA cultures; traditional African cooking courses - African bread baking; launching and training UBUNTU Youth Groups all over South Africa to spread the message and inspire the older generation which has become complacent; and many more diverse projects. We will be initiating a well managed volunteer programme for these projects and creating links between UBUNTU youth groups in SA and other countries.

Launching the first UBUNTU Farm South Africa. I was able to secure a working farm with many facilities and accommodation to start several projects which include animal rehabilitation. More to follow soon.
In unity & resonance - Michael Tellinger
Friday 26 August 2016, 11:11:06
Neil Warren
October 2015 I built these, before "His lawful bank highness" Roger Hayes blocked me from accessing the whole site in Jan 2016, just before any smart-ass starts saying "you're in media communications Neil, so what have you done, Mr Big Mouth!?"………………………

(Also works on a Flat Earth, from what I can see).
Friday 26 August 2016, 11:16:35
Daniel From UK
The red bull space jump, i consider to be fake. For is it possible that we see almost whole circumference of the planet but NO OCEAN??? Its not possible...go on google maps, go on earth mode and zoom out, you will find out. There are other reasons too. For example in one camera when he jumps, he goes vertically down, but later in another camera as he is falling the space shuttle he jumped off goes off the screen horizontally. There are other details included, you can actually look it up and investigate for your self. Doesn't have to mean the earth is flat, I don't know that, but the fact they're lying to us like this is suspicious. Also he note he jumped from 36km...where there are videos of rockets going into sky 120km and it looks nothing alike.
Wednesday 31 August 2016, 02:21:35
It doesn't matter really. My father confirms the curve at higher altitudes looking on to the ocean's horizon. Mountains and other terrains break the perception of the curve. Use O.B.E. or astral projection to confirm this theory. I don't see any other ways beside a flight into space. WWW is full of shit and anybody can make a good "documentary" look-a-like to mindfu** the population. I know I would if that was my goal. I'd probably earn a huge pile of money in the process and even sell a few thousand copies of a book I'd write laying the grounds for a good plot. In the end anything is possible if people choose to believe it. Ubuntu is proof of that and it was said we can't live without money and be in harmony and prosperity.
Thursday 1 September 2016, 09:36:21
All those bizarre concepts actually shows us two things in my opinion:
1st - our modern definitions and most of vocabulary isn't accurate enough, leading us into false conclusions and causes big misunderstandings
Friday 2 December 2016, 04:17:15
I totally agree with you Kuba. It is a mistery on the grandest of scales
Sunday 4 December 2016, 10:10:57
Daniel From UK
hey guys idk if you know, but Michael himself made a post about flat earth on fb and it seems like he came to the conclusion the earth is not a globe. -…
Wednesday 14 December 2016, 19:41:35
Neil Warren
Try again Daniel:

The Situation

For those who have not yet heard, there is presently an ongoing campaign focused on discrediting whistleblowers and public figures who directly threaten the establishment. More specifically, these efforts coming from the CIA and other official sources are intended to stifle the people's efforts toward Full Disclosure.

The Pitfalls of Partial Disclosure - Examining the Process of Disclosure and the Reasons Why a String of Half-Truths Just Won't Cut It

This effort of Full Disclosure represents the complete end to elitist rule—monetarily, socially, politically, etc. Consequently, public figures such as Michael Tellinger and others are having to deal with a significant amount of defamation attempts from these sources just to get through the day. So when we speak of incidents such as those discussed in this article, know that they are happening every day, and that it is up to all of us support one another and to ensure Full Disclosure becomes reality no matter how difficult the powers that be attempt to make it.

The Case

On November 6th, many of us found a strange post (or several) on Michael Tellinger's Facebook page. This post seems to contradict all of the work and success that he has had thus far. It contradicts his show on, it contradicts much of the book he has written, and it contradicts itself on numerous levels.

The post is on the narrative that many have stumbled over in recent times. This is the narrative and fixation on the Earth's shape as being flat. You can read the post on Tellinger's page here:

Facebook - Post on Michael Tellinger's Page

The thing that I found strange was that this blatant contradiction of all of Tellinger's past work was posted not on Michael Tellinger's webpage, but on an obscure website which is even further fixated on the narrative of Earth's shape. We can see that in the link below, and if you will notice, these two supposed quotes were posted only one day apart from one another so as to loosely mimic authenticity. It seems that whoever posted this on Tellinger's page accomplished this in a very short time. Click here to read:

A Planet Truth - Welcome to FE Nation: Michael Tellinger

Michael Tellinger Hacked - Posts and Website Links…
Monday 2 January 2017, 01:10:46
Daniel From UK
hey neil. Here am trying again. Video of michael himself making a presentation on flat earth.…
Friday 20 January 2017, 00:55:23
Daniel From UK
look at the words the are using in that post you gave us about the " michaels hack account". "disk - planet" its so contradicting, they way the whole site is set up and leaning you into believing it was just some crazy post, and leaning people to the idea of flat earth being absolutely ridiculous, trying discredit anything at all even going as low as saying that the simple diagrams of the flat earth models are CGI. Well, ofc duh. Yet trying to make NASA sound as credible as possible But still they say things like "Your right and freedom to search for truth and newness is absolutely real." makes me wonder if it wasn't made purposely by the "CIA themselfs to try and cover up the TRUTH. I hope you wasn't fooled by that site you shared @Neil Warren, because its evidently biased. You seem to have a lot of influence on this ubuntu site, your an active member.Ii see you making lots of comments and posts so it leaves me a a little worried.
Friday 20 January 2017, 01:23:36
Neil Warren
I've looked at the 2:08:00 bit, Mr From UK (any relation to the Y family?), and where that might "confirm" a frisbee lump of rock to you, what it confirms to me is multi-dimensional quantum physics, with a sphere being projected back-and-forth within a gravity-well-black-hole, giving the limited 5-sensory perception that the "face" on which we live and work and rest and play, is flat-enough to avoid a sense of slipping around it.

You wanna call that flat, call it flat.

I'll believe the rest of the "ice wall" bullshit when I've seen it for myself.

I'm not only "all over" UbuntuPlanet, by the way, and if you're truly not afraid of The Truth(s), why not come and expose the matrix of lies with these other Brits+++ over here on Fa£$€book Inc. Pinned post in this 49,000 member group being...

Elizabeth Brasile shared Activists Against Depopulation's photo.
November 17, 2016
ADMIN* Flat earth posts are not allowed in this group they will be deleted and the member will be blocked also from the group. Reason being is it usurps the whole page , we tried many times and it didn't work out. We will not tolerate racism and or homophobic comments. THANKS, Dean Karley. WE DO NOT SUPPORT ANY POLITICIAN or the Corrupt Governments they REPRESENT, THAT INCLUDES The Head of the SNAKE; WHITE/GREY/BLACK POPES. So Do not ASSUME that if we call out on your GOD or Political Puppet we SUPPORT ANY OF THEM!. read our "ABOUT" don't waste our TIME! Have to add this too that we are not an atheist group, that too is a system of divide and rule.. TRY JUST BEING HUMAN! You are what is causing the DIVIDE so they CAN RULE! THINK DEEP on that ONE.. Slapping yourself with labels only gives them more ways to divide you and well that is why we are in the mess we are in.. You are perpetuating the madness, try SAMENESS, that we are ALL HUMANS...…
Friday 20 January 2017, 14:49:29
Daniel From UK
Neil, as long as we agree that NASA is hoax and the the heliocentric model is spoon fed lies then we are on the same page. How the world works remains an open discussion. The reason why we are arguing is because, i am announcing to you Michael went flat out, his perspective has changed. The posts he made and the videos explaining this are the evidence. Above you was trying to discredit this information.
I apologise for any bitterness from my side.
I am actually really glad Sera Y made this post. It was was a turning point for me. I was simply curious how anybody in 21 century can think the earth is flat and i was in for a shock! It only exposes the matrix of lies further. Thanks Sera!
Saturday 21 January 2017, 15:05:19
Neil Warren
I was initially shown Ubuntu on LinkedIn Inc as an alternative to LETS (Local Exchange Trading System) and back in 2012 kind of time, Daniel / All. I too was more than intrigued to find Michael also dropping strong hints that the stone-patina proof on Stonehenge points to nearer a million years old than 5,000, and what are those buried pyramids down in the silt-filled valley below Adam's Calendar, and what polarity alignment is that, and are these terra-formers or stargates or both or what?

The start of his recording of the 2014 Eceti ranch one I think it is, catches him saying "and be gentle letting people out of their binary thinking / the fact that we live under a binary sky..." or something similar. If Michael were exhorting us now, or then, to take the flat Earth discussions literally, binary-style, I'd expect to see:

a) All the ball-planet logos to change
b) Michael to start all recorded talks with "Good morning, I could see London from Johannesburg when we got to 35,000ft yesterday-take-off, because as we know, the world is flat...". (In his own words).

Michael also mentioned somewhere around the 2014 mark that all this hidden-by-lies history of humanity is beyond fascinating, and remains essential knowledge without which we are sheeple-fodder, but the time is "NOW" (as in 3 years ago), to crack on and END money, hierarchy and assorted paraphernalia stemming from those evil twins = 99% of everything we all do.

Implied but for us to sort out is whatever Alt-Money-Hierarchy is and does, offline with online.

Thus my "sarcastic" points that I humbly still suggest people are going to find it very, very hard, to meet and then start working with 10,000 Britian based "Daniels", or the whole "Y family", or others you'll see populating this and other UP groups, like "Quasimodo" and "Truth333" I also recall, possibly deleted or self-deleted now.

For the record, my contribution is to carry on getting The Land Registry UK "under new management", as well as the wholesale (Bank of England) and retail banks and building societies declared publicly as totally bankrupt, fraudulent, not fit for purpose, all staff and employers to please learn about life from your nearest fully-fledged Contributionist, etc., etc., etc.. Ideally this year = 2017, and so who and where and what are "we", on the flat-or-otherwise multi-dimensional starship-planet of ours?

Start again with you, Daniel? - who are you, what do you want to contribute, and for 3 hours a week, or more?
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